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What if the history of the world — and the timeline of Christianity itself — has been dramatically misread?

In this episode I sit down with Paul Stobbs, creator of Understanding Conspiracy, known for his deep dives into Nephilim, spiritual warfare, and the exploding conversation around the millennial kingdom, the little season, and whether Christ may have already returned. Paul breaks down how he first got pulled into these ideas, why the topic overtook his channel, and how the movement around it accelerated far beyond anything he expected.

This episode digs into old world architecture, conflicting historical narratives, and the internal shift that happens when something in your body recognizes a thread of truth before your mind can name it. The tension between what we’re told and what we sense opens space for deeper questions — the kind that refuse to leave you alone. This episode isn’t about persuading you of a doctrine. It’s about discernment—how to sit with unsettling possibilities, stay grounded, and carry truth responsibly without letting it fracture your relationships, identity, or inner life.



You’ll Learn:

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:13:40] How Paul went from conspiracy researcher to Christian, and why he thinks that's the natural endpoint

[00:23:57] The little season theory, why Paul believes Christ already returned and we're living in Satan's reign of deception

[00:29:48] How modern Christians reinterpret Jesus's clear words to avoid the obvious conclusion

[00:36:33] The architectural evidence hiding in plain sight

[00:50:24] The 700 years of phantom history and what really buried the old world (hint: it wasn't a mud flood)

[01:10:11] Why Native Americans have no record of the old world architecture

[01:15:00] What if "the rest of the dead" from Revelation are the indigenous tribes who picked up right where they left off?

[01:17:51] Historical evidence for the first-century tribulation: Josephus, the temple's destruction, and the mark of the beast

[01:36:19] Paul on modern Israel: "It's fake" — and the real Jerusalem might be somewhere else entirely

[01:39:29] The history that suggests the clown is literally a representation of a demon

[01:54:13] Paul's perspective on psychedelics: You're not leaving earth, you're just seeing the Nephilim spirits that infest it

[02:04:32] A psychiatrist and a psychologist both discovered the same thing, calling on Jesus helps patients deemed clinically insane

Resources Mentioned:

The Nephilim Looked Like Clowns by Paul Stobbs | Book or Audiobook

UnderstandingConspiracy | Youtube

Jerry Marzinsky | Website

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