The Role of the State in the Future of Electric Vehicles

In transport, I think there are reasons to believe that with government subsidies for electric vehicles, for example. But by the same token, you have a diversity of automotive companies,. You've got a lot of competition there, and that will mean that the private sector will help drive a lot of that through competition. In other areas like heat that I just mentioned, it's much harder to imagine that. We're talking about the need for sort of a dramatic systemic change in these industries. So, we've got big challenges, but to go back to where we started on this is, where's the role of the market and where's therole of the government or what sort of business model that