I'm touched by the passion you still have for this area. I know it's not been your prime focus now for a while. You've you've turned to lots of other things which are incredibly important. Nobody has been as innovative as you have been there people made claims and tried to test them. But nobody's been as Innovative as you were no one has.
The good news about educational reform, says Harvard economist Roland Fryer, is that we know what it takes to turn a school around. The bad news is that it's hard work--and implementing it won't win you any popularity contests. Listen as the MacArthur Genius Award Winner and John Bates Clark medalist speaks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about how pizza parties revealed the potential of incentives to improve students' test scores, and why he's far more concerned about closing the racial achievement gap than keeping the love of learning pure. He also discusses the five best practices of successful schools, and why it's his failures far more than his successes that keep him in this fight.