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Expanding Our View of Toughness
"I think in a lot of ways, that's what we're talking about like masculinity and manliness. And again, let me go back way back to my comfort zone here," he said. "If you're going to the gym, manly and tough, whatever, great." He added: "But it's also the same if you go out and you wear tiny split shorts and are hammering up a hill,. It's like that's really freaking tough to do".