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David: I do on average about three of these mini podcasts a week on different talks that I've heard right and what's weird is I was like this is too much work it's like it's taking away from my focus on um on the main founders episodes so I did it for a little bit people found it they started signing up and paying for it and I stopped doing it. After like two months I realized oh you know what that wasn't that I was distracting from founders podcast when I take notes on all these talks and I read them constantly that actually adds to all the stuff I talked to you about talk to you about on founder, he says. David: Two or three times in