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The Pleasure of Meaning Tradeoff of Having Kids
A lot of people, they don't necessarily find it that pleasurable, but they do increase their sense of meaning in life. I think you can look at people who have kids whose biological sort of systems have kicked into place after having kids and they then see those kids as a source of meaning. We are actively trained by our culture that kids are a source of negative meaning that they rob the world and life of meaning.