Is There a Need for Soft Skills?

I think it's changed by perception of it's changed. I was big fan of the leading design conference and went to most of the early ones. And there was a lot of kind of vulnerability and sharing because people were feeding lonely into going to leadership. But then there was a lack of actual like vision work, like strategic vision and clarity and possibility of the future. Some people go into that design leadership and go, you know what, I want to get back to making stuff. It's an interesting tension for me at least anyway.