I was sure I lost it. Did you forget about it at some point, right? But at some point I thought I'm never going to get those money back. Like 2008 hit and I was like, I'm like, there's no way I'm getting money back. Is unsecured loans. And then you check it in 2009 and you're like, wait. Yeah, I checked at some point and prospect kind of started having issues with like SEC and like they were way ahead of their time. The SEC wasn't ready for this stuff, right? What's EC? Security exchange commission. Yes. So anyway, I did not lose money. I actually was slightly up.
Val Katayev is a tech and finance entrepreneur. In his high school yearbook, he decided he wanted to make $1,000,000 by the age of 30. He hit it by 19. In this interview, we spoke about some of his businesses, crypto, the looming recession, the power of a personal brand, and much more.