You should not pitch them if they're actively on the board. If it was a similar company ten years ago and the v c is no longer on the board, and that company was sold and shut down, you should pitch that v c. Why? Because they have scar tissue, they have wisdom, and they might have an axe to grind, or unfinished business. You can avoid a lot of these problems by just being good to your partners. This is what makes america great. And democracy will beat authoritarianism if we stay vigilant. O k, let's to an ask jason from pierre on our slack.