Systems dynamics and achology attempts to understand our world better. Why don't more people think like this? How did you get interested in systems thinking? And how is your thinking about systems changed over the years? Those are good questions. Before i get into them, let me point out something obvious, but often unsaid already: we're going to cover a very wide diversity of issues and questions. On some of those, i actually have scientific expertes because i have devoted my time to studying them,. In other cases, i am really not much better than most of the people who are listening to this podcast. I may have intuition, or, in some cases, merely hopes,

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