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Political animals (with Leah Garcés)
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Aren't You Just Perpetuating the Death Penalty?
"I'm not going to stop suffering on the planet, but I can reduce it. And any system that's leading us in that direction, we have to pursue," he says. "If you walk into a conventional factory farm system with it is dark and it's crowded and the animals are living in their feces and a horrible life ... those animals are suffering less."
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