Is There Anything That Gives You Hope?

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CNN's John Sutter spoke with climate activist Ken Robinson. Robinson: "I think that was very much in alignment with what was necessary" He says the way our actions ripple out through others and through time, expedentially, holds infinite potential for long-term impact. The thing that perhaps not gives me hope, but gives me faith in and commitment to stick around is knowing that i am a part of this web of life," he said.

Climate change has driven some environmental activists to extremes. We talk about overcoming despair with Terry Kaelber, whose husband David Buckel took his life to protest inaction, and Tim DeChristopher, who was imprisoned for his activism.

This episode was produced by Hady Mawajdeh, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Paul Mounsey with help from Christian Ayala, and hosted by Noel King.

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