i don't think it was necessarily thought of as shameful, at least in the contects where i grew up. There is more just general a reluctance to talk about female sexuality broadly. Women who are master bating are having orgasms in a way that women who aren’t master baiting and who even are having sex at a young age, aren't having at all. And so it's sort of serving a different function, ye, and also a, well, i don't thinkIt was always just when women like masterbated, and it was like, oh, like there was something that made her more like a sexual being, a sexual being. That's right

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