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Summary
In this episode of Svelte Radio we talk with Enrico about This Week in Svelte - a weekly Svelte show that he runs. Tune in!

Recorded on November 1st, 2024

Discussion

• Enrico
  • Co-founded: Design Systems Community
• Weekly recorded show on YT
  • Co-hosts
    • Karim
    • Paolo
    • Stanisla
  • Changelog
    • Carbon Components Svelte
• Enrico
  • GitHub
  • Twitter

Unpopular Opinions

• Brittney: [Inertia.js](https://inertiajs.com/)

Picks

• Enrico: The Wandering Earth Part 2
• Kevin: Quest 3

Transcription
Here's a quick word from our sponsor.

Welcome to the new era of content management with Contentful.

Say goodbye to the limitations of traditional content systems

and hello to a world where collaboration sparks innovation.

With Contentful, you're not just managing content,

you're creating content-first, multi-brand experiences

across all channels effortlessly.

The best part? It requires zero coding.

Empower your teams to collaborate and innovate,

delivering impactful digital experiences at scale.

Contentful's AI-driven platform not only streamlines content creation,

but also ensures it aligns perfectly with your brand.

Ready for a game-changer?

Start with Contentful for free today.

Unleash the potential of your digital content

and drive your business forward.

Learn more at Contentful.com

[intro music]

Hey, welcome everyone to another episode of Svelte Radio.

We're back again.

Ooh, I'm joined by Brittany.

Hello.

Hi.

Back this week.

Back this week, yeah, yeah.

Hello.

And we are joined by another guest.

It's Enrico.

You might know him from this week in Svelte.

Hi, Enrico.

Hey, everybody. Enrico here.

Hey.

So before we get started, Brittany, what's new?

It's been crazy.

I went on vacation last week, so I know I missed our previous guest.

I think we had Jacob on last week, but unfortunately I had to miss that one.

We went to San Antonio where it was kind of warm.

It was like 80s and 90s Fahrenheit, so what, 30?

A little less than 30, maybe 20, 28 Celsius.

That sounds very nice.

But it was overcast the whole time.

So I tried to get in the pool, and it was like windy and cold.

It was like still not warm enough to get in the pool there.

But we came back, and it snowed yesterday for Halloween, so that was good.

We have like probably three to four inches of snow outside now.

Wow.

Yeah, we just got our first falling snow here today.

Oh, really?

So it doesn't stay on the ground, though, because it's not that cold here just yet.

Yeah, our ground is not that cold.

I thought it would melt, but it froze overnight, and it's just like stuck there.

Damn.

Yeah, that doesn't sound like fun.

Maybe you should just go more south.

I've talked about it, yeah.

We just built that pool, though, so we're like 10 years, and our kids are in school still,

so 10 years, and then we'll probably keep this house for the summer when it's nice here

and then move somewhere else, be snowbirds for a while.

Yeah, makes complete sense.

All right, let's talk a bit more with you, Enrico.

Who are you?

That might be a broad question, but how did you get into development?

Who am I?

Yes, well, my name is Enrico Sacchetti, and I am a software developer based in the Greater

Toronto area, Ontario, Canada, and what I like to do is front-end development, and ever

since I was a teenager, that's what I've been doing as a personal hobby, and some opportunities

came along, and before I knew it, it was a full-time job.

So despite my post-secondary education in video game development, I actually pursued

a career in website development because that's where the opportunities lay.

We have had so many people that are video game developers, like by originally video

game developers on the show, right?

Yeah, I feel like that's been a thing.

The person that did Wolfenstein, the felt version of that?

Snuffy, Jason?

Yeah, and a couple of other people were in video game development.

It's kind of like the music thing that we have, too.

A lot of people were musicians before they were programmers, too.

Yeah.

That's interesting.

Yeah, did you get into the game development stuff?

Was that because of interest in gaming in general?

Yeah, it was sort of a misguided interest in video games because as much as I enjoyed

playing them, making them is 100% different.

You need ongoing, persistent passion for that, as I realized the hard way after graduating.

I tried to get jobs across the world, particularly China and Canada, because I was pursuing living

there.

I actually ended up living in China for one year and became an English teacher after graduating.

Oh, cool.

So that's where I learned how to speak Mandarin and teach English.

But even though I was teaching English...

I had no idea you spoke Mandarin.

Yeah, that's a thing I can do.

But aside from that, I found myself on the weekends learning code, HTML, JavaScript,

CSS, because that was my passion.

And game development was not my passion.

In fact, when I had an interview for a job, they told me to my face, "You don't have passion

for games."

And I'm really glad that happened.

That's rough.

As rough as it sounds, I was relieved because I realized this is not for me.

And I found out very early in my career.

So I think that's a very good blessing.

Yeah.

What language was that, that you were doing the video game programming?

Programming language?

Yeah.

In university, I learned C++.

And that's what I used along with some Visual Studio stuff and frameworks.

But I never had professional experience game development.

I just had a couple of portfolio pieces, and I graduated with that.

So I was never a game developer.

I was just a student of one.

And then eventually, I came back to Canada, ...