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378: ‘Live From WWDC 2023’, With John Ternus, Mike Rockwell, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak
The Talk Show With John Gruber
Craig Federighi's Vision for the Future
Craig Federighi: It's very exciting to not watch the keynoteies in it for like an hour and twenty minutes. Mike Wapwell: Sorry, once again, I'm not leaving. We're running a little long. John Defterios: What's it like not to be the star? "I had a little bounce in my seat," he says.
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