I think I can see an aspect of what today is science by tracing it back to something, to rereading the past in a way that allows me to better understand what I am today. And from this perspective, there is space for reading what the Malaysian did in the direction you were saying. It's not even contradictory because we are at the moment of civilization in what you call theology now. What is called philosophy now and what I call science now, they're more or less the same project. For me, my book is not a historical book about the eczemaander. It's a book about thinking about science today.

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