I think I'm on your side here, if I'm right, that you would say we need to be much more explicit both for robots and for human beings about what it objectively means to be a moral person. And also, isn't it just a little bit circular to what it means to be moral is to be like a moral person? Right. So it sounds like we are both on board with virtual ethics, not necessarily being a good approach here. But maybe we can move on to what he was talking about, which is these historically important moral theories.

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