Ep. 107: Francis Fukuyama is an idiot
The Pillar Podcast
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"We were always nerded out about canon law on the show. But we don't want to just make a boring crisis show," he says. "If it's just miserable and angst ridden and everything else week after week, then I feel like, you know, I don't look forward to making it in those circumstances." He adds: "This is more about what are we for? What are we doing?"
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