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What's the Difference Between a Job and a Life?
I always feel like if there's a job that you don't want to do crummy, it would be being a pastor. There's a lot of damage that you can do by not doing that job very well. And so there was certainly a level of fear keeping me from wanting to do that. It just was probably three years of finally I just had a conversation with someone who said, No, I think you can do it. And I think you would do a good job as a as a pastor. So that was the turning point really, but I don't know self doubt probably.