Can You Have Extasis Without the Cringe?

The set and setting of these things in this journey is incredibly important, before you just go willy nilly with shot collars and riding crops. So it's basically, can you have extasis without the crave o addiction? Can you have cathosis without the cringe, like self indulgent self help? And can you have communitas without the cults? Li, we've got those two on line, and now we just dissolve into the mine meld, and lose our agency and and sovereignty.

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