the pendagon says that there were little over 14 hundred civilian deaths resulting from, you know, the tens of thousands of air strikes they've conducted in eroch an, syria. Now, i can't give you a precise number, but i know that back in 20 17, when a colleague and i went on the ground to do a systematic sample, a sample that we believe is an under count because of the areas we went to. And from that, looking at strikes that had occurred through 20 16 o, i guess in the first little over two years of this air campaign, our inference came out to between seven and ten thousand people, civilians, having been killed.