The Constraints That Hobbes and Plato Thinks Are Not Necessary

There are a lot of ways in which conditions to dare are a lot different from the kind of material, the kind of ideational conditions that there were in Hobbes' day. And taking the constraint seriously doesn't mean it's necessary to in any way accept the kind of states that Hobbes and Plato think would be best. The trick is to find genuine real ways of overcoming them so that we can have societies that can last while at the same time having societies that are worth living in. That forces us to try and it's important to try.