Is There Any Good News?

The good news is you don't have to be a siber technician to understand siber risk. And we see more and more companies adopting a the siber into the traditional risk management frameworks that these companies operate under. So they're moving in the direction of being able to articulate that through the traditional rate risk management systems. Hif they had, i think that's a really good piece of nese. It feels like us companies and businesses are really focus on this is an issue.