How I Learned From Benny Blanco and Ed Sheeran

You've worked with some incredible songwriters over the years. Did you learn things about the craft from them? Are there any particular approaches they take that you found interesting and maybe incorporated into your own process? What I learned from Julia Michaels is like, she's got such tenderness and ruinous with her voice. She used to be incredibly shy. You wouldn't be allowed in the room when she was doing a tape. So she didn't want anyone to hear her. Even though it was all bloody brilliant, there's kind of yearning with how Julia writes like, of vulnerability that she's so brilliant at. It'd be that thing of like first day of school vibes where you