
From Google to Spotify to Venture Studio: Kal Amin on Building with Integrity | 36
Builders & Doers
Intro
David and Kal introduce the episode theme: building with integrity across Google, Spotify, and venture studios.
What do Spotify, Google, and AI venture studios have in common? Kal Amin has been at the center of all three, shaping global operations and building companies that balance growth with integrity.
From Spotify’s shift to mobile-first, to Google’s early “focus on the user” mantra, to leading Sounder.ai and now 1848 Ventures, Kal shares candid lessons on scaling, fundraising, and staying true to mission while navigating the highs and lows of entrepreneurship.
Discover:
🟢 Why Spotify’s success hinged on going mobile-first
🟢 The cultural DNA differences between Google’s Silicon Valley roots and Spotify’s Scandinavian design ethos
🟢 The hidden value of “outsider insights” and non-traditional backgrounds in tech
🟢 Why founders should prioritize progress over perfection (and make decisions fast)
🟢 How to think about monetization earlier than most startups do
🟢 What it really takes to scale teams and culture across continents
🟢 Why conviction and resilience separate the founders who “go the distance”
Connect with Kal:
✦ https://1848ventures.com
✦ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kalamin/
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro0:20 – Spotify’s Early Lessons: From Piracy to Mobile-First
2:00 – Google vs. Spotify: Different DNAs, Same Obsession with the User
5:20 – Outsider Insights: From History Degree to Tech & Venture
9:05 – Lessons from Sounder.ai: Progress over Perfection
11:00 – Fundraising Reality: Why Rejection is the Norm
13:00 – Owning a Restaurant and Running a Venture Studio
14:00 – 1848 Ventures’ Focus on SMBs and AI-Native Solutions
16:00 – Portfolio Companies: Travel Tech, Construction Tech, and Acquisitions
18:00 – The Hard Realities of Acquiring a Business
20:00 – The Silver Tsunami: Aging Owners and Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition
22:00 – Frameworks for Validation and Monetization Readiness
24:00 – Why Founders Need to Think About Monetization Earlier
25:00 – Balancing Ads and User Experience at Spotify & Flipboard
27:00 – Designing a Better Content Ecosystem
28:00 – What Separates Founders Who Go the Distance
30:00 – Culture at Scale: Swedish Team vs. American Team
32:00 – Early Stage Conviction: Finding Green Lights Others Miss
34:00 – Unlearning Corporate Habits to Survive Zero to One
36:00 – What Kal Would Tell His 25-Year-Old Self at Google
38:00 – The Value of Coaching and Advisors for Founders
42:00 – Why Great CEOs Don’t Go It Alone
44:00 – The Next 25 Years: AI’s Compounding Effect
46:00 – A Future of AI-Enabled Homes, Health, and Work
47:00 – Where to Find Kal


