How to Trust Prisoners

I suppose also I went through large periods in my childhood having lost the men in my life and lost them to this experience I could never have so going inside I suppose it was partly trying to retrieve something that was absent. Your family were a bit perplexed by you possibly still are that you know we did that bad stuff we got into prison what are you doing going in there that's you know voluntarily? Well I think they thought maybe you're a bit of a researcher that you were sort of trying to find out more or whatever as soon as something is forbidden of course you become very very curious about it. And so just let's talk a bit about trust because you have to be trusted,