Conversations with tyler is produced by the mercatus center at george mason university, bridging the gap between academic ideas and real world problems. To day, i'm here with ruth skurr, historian at cambridge. Ruth's latest book has received grave reviews, and it's called napoleon, a life told in gardens and shadows. Who was the hero or heroine of the french revolution? I am going to say it was danton because he was a revolutionary who saw the error of his ways after he had directly participated in setting up the revolutionary tribunal.

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