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The Confluence of Factors in the Real Estate Industry
Roxanne Jones: Let's back up and kind of dig into a little bit, right? You mentioned REOs, you mentioned real estate working in this space. And also the incentive, although I'd say really misaligned incentives between the major players in the space. So what are some of the stuff that you've seen up close, right? Some of these people already have really rightfully poorly and reputations, right? Like house flippers and all that kind of stuff.