I was going through an education system which makes me a jack-of-all trades but in that window of time my my father was running these small businesses they would get into trouble and he had nobody literally nobody talked to. He would sit down my brother and me after the age of 12 or 13 and he would go through you know the issues the business was having and we had to come up with how to make it survive for one more day. Then I think after I was like 15 or 16 he would he would take take us on sales calls and one of us would actually start specializing in India. You can see a lot of examples of people done really well where they had a lot