Ren: I think CCTV is going to be utilized in more than 85, if not 90 percent of USDC transaction. It's going to be by far the most secure way to bridge. And with things like IDX before coming on to Cosmos and they use USCC as collateral, I think USCC could become the stablecoin of choice for everyone. The West-Fi narrative is still flipping on the table; we'll see how it plays out over the next year or two.

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