The Challenges of Games and Experiences

Matt: I think you're a fan of being, you know, psychologically challenged and then experienced. And there's a lot of different ways that they can challenge you. Jeff: Elden Ring is interesting because this company from software, they're kind of known for making like really, really difficult games. But also it has all of this lore for you to parse that if you really want to experience it on that next level. Matt: Do you see any analogs between something like that, that is more of a traditional role playing game but with an open-ended quality similar to what you're doing? Jeff: It feels like you're looking at a GPS where it's telling you exactly