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The Role of Jesus in the Crucifixion
The reason this pastor doesn't recognize the verse that Alex is talking about is because this is not the most important verse in the general understanding of the Bible. It's an interesting wrinkle where Jesus was making plans to play the role that he's supposed to play in his arrest and subsequent crucifixion, but it isn't a focus in and of itself. For Alex, on the other hand, it's paramount. He completely interprets the verse because he needs something in the Bible to give divine justification for his obsession with guns.