Is Something Property Right?

libertarians pride themselves in thinking things through systematically. So let's get the property rights back dropped here, so then we can make sense of your arguments against ip. I think one problem is people approach this with the on our ideas, our innovations or artistic creations, are they property? And that very way of framing it is based upon ou confusion. The question is not whether something is property right,. But overtime, we start saying, that thing is my property. So then the question becomes, is that property or not?