In this episode of MIP, Nate, Ryan and Jason discuss, Jason’s thought’s on MIP, Jason shit posting the liminal web, physical vs digital localism, Jason inspires Nate to garden, doomer optimism, doomer optimism vs doomer dutyism, generational doomers, generational epistemes, doomer optimist projects, Jason’s personal goals and visions, why southern Appalachia, food/farming as answer to the culture wars, scale and polarization, “minimum viable scale”, subsidiarity and broad scale, drawbacks of localism, anarchism’s virtues, drama between Egypt and Sudan and IR issues, anti fragility at various scales, mechanism design, Snowden Cynefin and managing complexity, participatory budgeting, distributism in localism vs co-ops, Hamiltonian means to Jeffersonian ends, rural developments, UBI, complementary currencies, and does anyone understand holochain??