The Importance of Transitioning to Renewables

I'm afraid I don't see a way that they are going to be able to do it by themselves. Governments really need to be setting in place policies that essentially make it cut demand for their products. That's the only way that we're really going to see change. Yeah. Well, who are very, very much, you know, they have a senior leadership that wants to, who wants to transition, and they find it intensely difficult.

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