There does obviously come a point where extremist ideas and extremist ideology crosses the line into some form of behavior. But there are huge failures across the board from the state and from society in relation to radical Islam. I do think it's worth tussling with a question of when it is justifiable for the state to intervene because they think you've gone beyond rhetoric into something else. One of my big concerns coming out of the COVID era is the way in which I actually think that the COVID deniers, the people who think that it was a scannedemic, I'm sorry, but I couldn't agree more.

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