Sometimes teams are really, I mean, it's wonderful that people work for and use their free time to build something. But we just have to be careful to make sure that things are not slowing down your company,. Because that's going to be painful. The time gain you get is going to be lost when teams are just slow to update their stuff. If you're helping hand, if you can, contribute, stuff like that, you've got to keep that online. Yeah. Let's talk about testing first. And then I'll get into interviews last.

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