The Perspective of the Ancestors

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Tiwo ponders what he calls the perspective of the ancestor. Profound change can happen quickly, but often that sudden change happens after long logging, seemingly hopeless struggle. One response to that kind of time line is fatalism: My measly efforts won't bring a just world in my lifetime. But tio argues for the posite, the perspective of an ancestor who looks beyond her own lifetime.

In our Season 5 finale: What’s the cultural transformation we need to make — in the West, and the U.S. in particular — to live in good health with the rest of the natural world and with each other? Episode 11 of The Repair, our series on the climate emergency.

Researched and produced by John Biewen, with co-host Amy Westervelt. Script editor, Cheryl Devall. Interviews with Dirk Philipsen, Christian Felber, Olúfẹ́mi Táíwò, and Jessica Hernandez. Music by Lili Haydn, Kim Carroll, Chris Westlake, Lesley Barber, Cora Miron, Fabian Almazan, and Alex Weston. Music consulting by Joe Augustine of Narrative Music.