Is There a Political Will to Reimagine How We Organise Our Society?

Do you feel hopeful that there's the political will to try and re imagine how we do organize our societies? Because it does seem necessary if we're going to survive the next hundred years, really with climate change and things like that. We have a kind of very industrial state. And i think it's very, very hard to see how the changes we need can be led through those industrial systems. The thing is that at the moment, it's like fireworks until we have a bigger story," she says.