Arman: Is the goal to get transaction costs for any type of application as low as possible? And if so, you know, how low is low enough? Arboretum launched Nova chain in August 2021. It has a lot of functionality that you'd want in a roll-up environment; it's technically superior to a side chain. We haven't told DeFi projects like GMX or Sushi Uni to move to Nova because it's cheaper than Arvertrim 1.

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