Winning at the Wrong Thing and a False Definition of Success | Season 4, Episode 4
Pastors Podcast
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The Definition of Success
"I wasn't pastoring my house for 15 years as a senior pastor and alcohol started past my wife," he says. "So the winning at the right thing is that smile that my kids now have in my, in their eyes every time they see that winning at theright thing" He adds: "Success looks like that my wife can call me a man or god, not the people just around me at church."
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