Ukraine Sea Drones and Peace Talks
Pod Save the World
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How to Empower Movements in These Countries
A lot of people like to vote for a government that will impose strict control over social behaviors they don't like. But if there is a silver lining, I think it's that when people invade them, sorry, you know, bring democracy. "The pendulum's going to have to swing back big globally," he says.
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