The first thing that i don't know is how much money you want to live on. If they never need the money, well then we should look at very long term, aggressive investments and get as much of it into a roth position as possible so we don't have to deal with age 72 rules. With the market in the shaky state that we were talking about with michel, i also like doing wroth conversions. I like roth over traditional, but i also, you know, the tax triangle, flexible money. But i think joe to hearken back to how you started this answer. Hearken, hearken, you say, hearkened, he

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