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Fake and Gaetz

Red Scare

CHAPTER

Bob Dylan: A Complex Legacy

This chapter explores the speakers' mixed feelings towards Bob Dylan, balancing admiration with frustration over his enigmatic persona. They also discuss a significant song inspired by Hattie Carroll's tragic story, reflecting on themes of civil rights, societal indifference, and the political responsibilities of artists.

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Speaker 2
I
Speaker 1
don't hate Bob Dylan, but I definitely can think he's annoying. Yeah.
Speaker 2
He's like obtuse and obscurantist and only speaks in riddles and doesn't give journalists or interviewers what they
Speaker 1
want. He's a poet. You know, he's his life is his poetry. Yeah. um but i'm not even
Speaker 2
honestly a huge fan of his music i am it's so bad dasha i'm so ashamed i'm such a dylan head i've seen him so many times at this point damn
Speaker 1
dude no i mean i think i'm missing out yeah
Speaker 2
no you're not you're absolutely not really
Speaker 1
yeah i used there was a point where i definitely was like pretending to like bomb dylan in my 20s i was like for sure like some guy who's asking me i've
Speaker 2
only seen him you know pretty late in the game and um the last couple concerts i've been to it's like him dressed like ariana grande yeah looking like a lolita wife who
Speaker 1
That's cute. I actually like, yeah, he had like a late career album or like when I was a child. So he was, you know, only relatively old. Where he had a song about standing in the doorway and crying, you know, that one. um i love yeah like i've tried yeah but i never he's never he's not on my playlist yeah
Speaker 2
um i i even like um his uh civil rights uh racial reckoning song about like hattie carroll who was like a a cook and a barmaid it's true story who was killed by some like young newspaper heir whose parents were like plant plantation owners in the deep south no it was Maryland they were from Baltimore why
Speaker 1
did he kill her because
Speaker 2
he was I don't know I mean all history is falsified and I'm sure there's like a right wing spin on this, but he was some 25 year old playboy and brat who just struck her with his cane and she died and she was like 51 and had a bunch of kids, a single mom. And it was like one of these early George Floyd type racial show trials from what I understand. Beautiful song. Love to play it on the treadmill at the gym. That's
Speaker 1
cool. It's
Speaker 2
like, you know, Bob Dylan being a decent fucking person or whatever.
Speaker 1
Yeah. He's not very politically outspoken though, is he? No, but he's probably, you know an unbearable libtard maybe he's new maybe he's neutral yeah i think we're gonna see a lot of people are actually kind of politically neutral well yeah and they don't really care and they were on board with being woke because they were made to you know they were like tyrannized into it well
Speaker 2
that was my thing
Speaker 1
like with um the dean essay because caitlin flanagan pointed this out what that so many people were like like a switch were like oh yeah we never
Speaker 2
yeah

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