judge jackson is a former public defender. She went to Harvard twice, both for undergraduate and for lall school. Her husband's twin is married to paul ryan's wife's sister. There will be a quiz on this at the end of the episode for everyone who is following along. William: When we spoke to you just about a month ago when justice bryer retired, you predicted that judge jackson would be the nominee. Was this just a sort of dune deal way back then? I mean, it wasn't a dune deal. How does she become a judge? Tell me more about her path.