There's an alitism. There's a dismissiveness to say, she says. And as time goes on, everybody will believe what we believe, so we don't really need to go and figure out why they think what they think,. The other thing i'll tell you that you see it in the democratic party is they have this professional class, leadership class bubble. It's almost impossible to find political operatives that understand those people. A major part a problem in the party o that they're goig to have to deal with one way or another.