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How to Live Without a Credit Card
Jesse: Ben, I just want people to know that it is possible to live without a credit card. You have to navigate those waters a little bit carefully, but you can do it if you want to. We've been given, doing retirement stuff for a long time, but we've raised that and started giving a lot more money away. And then as far as the money left over, we're working on fixing this house and making it better because we put off, we've put off a lot of home improvements in order to get mortgage paid.