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I was really struck by how the architecture that they put together felt much less like principled than I would have guessed. The product is pretty constrained as is already mostly doesn't do anything that it's not meant to do. But if people really want to break it and have fun with it, you know, it's always hard. You can leak the prompt. Anyone's prompt is always easily attackable. Citations are one way to prevent misuse or preventing any other ways to do that but at a point, these kind of like poems or some rhyming things are just for fun? I don't think Bing is going to feel offended by the poem we read out there.

We talked to Aravind Srinivas about competing with the tech giants, Perplexity's product philosophy and obsession with maximizing value delivered to the user per unit time, and the features that makes Perplexity unique.

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(1:31) Introduction & Context

(08:06) Aravind’s vision for Perplexity as the world’s most truth-centric company

(9:29) Raising the average IQ of the world

(12:00) Aravind’s favorite tech entrepreneur

(15:12) “Anthropics” - Building your own model vs user experience

(33:00) Why is perplexity free

(43:00) Talking shop: Perplexity’s tech stack and speed

(1:06:00) Perplexity’s stance on guardrails on search

(1:19:48) Forecasting weakly general AGI: The four criteria

(1:28:00) Aravind’s perspective on OpenAI and the future of AGI

(1:39:00) The Cognitive Revolution’s rapid fire questions: Neuralink implant? Most used AI tools? AI hopes and fears?

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References & Shownotes:

Flamingo: https://www.deepmind.com/blog/tackling-multiple-tasks-with-a-single-visual-language-model

Decision Transformer Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.01345

Aravind on TalkRL Podcast: https://www.talkrl.com/episodes/aravind-srinivas-2

Weakly General AGI Criteria: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/3479/date-weakly-general-ai-is-publicly-known/

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