i love like the that id think of it as mind manifesting, right? Like wat rick was saying. But i did have a specific question for veric and amy, if you anto also offer an opinion. You've referred several times tomdma. But mdma is a euphoric. It's not a psychodalic, right? Well, back in the eighties, when Mdma was being used as a theripy drug, but had also become an ecstasy,. And so we use it in a very broad way. That a hyper ventilation, this holotropic breathwork that i've learned from stangroft, is one of the therapeutic approaches that

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