E&D: What is interesting here with LTRIA is that the issue that they also have with selling those heating products in the US is because of the patent claim that British American tobacco put there. E&D: I actually do own British American as well and that's been a hugely successful dividend stock for me over the years. And if 3M via the company they acquired at the time did create issues to people and impact the hearing loss of course they need to pay for that.

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